According to the U.S. National Library of Medicine and National Institutes of Health, “viability” is defined as the point at which a fetus might survive ex utero, or outside the womb, approximately 24 weeks of gestational development. Diana said, “I do agree with Roe in that at-viability or post-viability fetuses have rights that should be considered by a doctor who would be performing the abortion. And the law gives them the space to do that.”

“My personal feelings about a person’s reasons for ending a pregnancy are irrelevant to the provisioning of their care. We all have our ethical discomforts somewhere along the spectrum,” Diana said. “I have personal ethical discomforts with late-term abortion. But working from my paradigm, which is scientific by virtue of necessity in this line of work, I don’t think it’s murder.”

Diana differentiates between “consent to sex” and “consent to pregnancy.” She said, “Sometimes getting an abortion is the responsible thing to do. I know that sex is how we make babies, but I think of the act of sex as separate from pregnancy. Pregnancy is just one possible outcome. Women shouldn’t be slaves to any sneaky sperm who might get past a contraceptive measure.”

“I don’t think it’s up to me to declare that they [unborn human beings] have any objective value or not, and I can’t speak subjectively on that matter as I have not ever been and am not pregnant,” said Diana. “The woman is my patient, not her embryo or fetus. If she thinks it has a given value, I understand that, and I respect that. But I do not assign objective value to the contents of other people’s wombs … For my purposes, it is not a ‘baby’ until it’s born or my patient calls it a baby. Then we can talk about it as a baby. An embryo or fetus is not a baby.”

Barros’ response is, “The very definition of an embryo and fetus is a little baby in the womb. The issue is, what does God think?” Barros gets his answer from Psalm 139:13-16:

John Barros sits on a concrete wall in the rain, patiently waiting for women to emerge from Orlando’s abortion clinic, Oct. 7, 2013.

“For you formed my inward parts;
you knitted me together in my mother’s womb.
I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
Wonderful are your works;
my soul knows it very well.
My frame was not hidden from you,
when I was being made in secret,
intricately woven in the depths of the earth.
Your eyes saw my unformed substance;
in your book were written, every one of them,
the days that were formed for me,
when as yet there was none of them.”

“In this Scripture, King David praises God for creating him in his mother’s womb,” Barros explains. “The womb is God’s workshop where He creates masterpieces. Even science shows us that every person is different and unique. Each of us have our own DNA and there will never be another one alike.”